[BVARC] atsc-30-explained
Christopher Boone
setxtelecom at gmail.com
Wed Dec 15 11:38:52 CST 2021
Atsc 1 is 1080i or lower. Atsc3 can be 4k and maybe higher in the
future...of course it CAN be lower as well..
Chris
WB5ITT
On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, 10:12 AM Gary Sitton via BVARC <bvarc at bvarc.org>
wrote:
> Are these the lower resolution subchannels the digital TV stations provide?
> Gary K5AMH
>
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> On December 14, 2021 9:57:10 PM john Parmalee via BVARC <bvarc at bvarc.org>
> wrote:
>
>> https://www.tomsguide.com/reference/atsc-30-explained
>>
>> Right now Brad says:
>> In order to put ATSC 3/Nextgen on the air here, channels 20 and 39 had to
>> basically go off the air with their ATSC 1 signals. 39.1 (The CW) is
>> actually being broadcast in ATSC 1 by KPRC 2 and 20 is on their sister
>> station KRIV’s transmitter now.
>>
>> KIAH 39 is now carrying 2, 8, 11, 39 & 47 in ATSC 3
>>
>> KTXH 20 is carrying 13, 20, 26, 45, & 67 in ATSC 3.
>>
>> John Parmalee
>> Jparmalee at aol.com
>> 281-380-3811
>> K5VGM WI2XLJ
>> In a message dated 12/14/2021 7:20:26 PM Central Standard Time,
>> gmuller885 at aol.com writes:
>>
>>
>> What is the advantage to the new TV.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Note20 Ultra 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: john Parmalee via NARS <nars at mailman.qth.net>
>> Date: 12/14/21 5:27 PM (GMT-06:00)
>> To: nars at mailman.qth.net,
>> the-woodlands-amateur-radio-club at googlegroups.com
>> Subject: [NARS] Fwd: [BVARC] Houston, We Have a NextGen TV Launch
>>
>>
>> John ParmaleeJparmalee at aol.com281-380-3811 K5VGM WI2XLJ
>> From: bvarc at bvarc.org
>> To: bvarc at bvarc.org
>> Cc: k5bes at k5bes.net
>> Sent: 12/14/2021 9:41:18 AM Central Standard Time
>> Subject: Re: [BVARC] Houston, We Have a NextGen TV Launch
>>
>> Here is the encoding and monitoring setup at KPRC for ATSC 3. The video
>> flow routers are two redundant bi-directional links between KPRC & KIAH
>> over two different isps. Below is the ATSC 3 monitoring gear. In the
>> yellow bag is a portable ATSC 3 field monitor. The Dell pc at the bottom is
>> for control of the Sencore and Trivini systems. The Harmonic encoders
>> are the final destination before ATSC 1 programming leaves the building.
>> The Selinio is the old encoder. The CW programming from KIAH is inserted
>> here via an ip Ethernet connection to the video flow routers pictured.
>> There is an ASI video link over both Microwave and leased fiber circuit to
>> the transmitter site. Comcast, YouTube Tv, and AT&T also have fiber
>> connections and use over the air as a backup. Everyone else (i.e. Dish,
>> Entouch, Suddenlink, etc.) pick up only via over the air.
>> On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 21:54 JASON LAUCKNER via BVARC <bvarc at bvarc.org>
>> wrote:
>> Jimmy,It is certainly moving that way. ATSC3.0 is IP based. Our facility
>> is mostly SDI (serial digital- coax) based but more of it is moving to
>> fully IP based processing-distribution. Our local 20 and 26 signals hit the
>> encoder as SDI but it is all IP after that, right up to the transmitter
>> input. 13, 45 and 48 (the other stations on the 3.0 transmitter) arrive as
>> IP and are fed to the encoder that way. JasonKG5WPE
>> On 12/13/2021 9:09 PM Jimmy Vance via BVARC <bvarc at bvarc.org>
>> wrote: Thanks Jason. Isn't pretty much all modern broadcast using AoIP and
>> VoIP?
>>
>>
>> --jv
>>
>>
>> On 12/13/2021 8:41 PM, JASON LAUCKNER via BVARC wrote:
>> Attached are a couple of pictures of the 3.0 encoding/monitoring
>> equipment at KRIV/KTXH.
>> On 12/11/2021 9:19 AM Leslie Bartosh via BVARC <bvarc at bvarc.org>
>> wrote: Brad:Thank you for all the great information!73Leslie, AD5WB
>>
>> On Dec 11, 2021, at 9:01 AM, Brad K5BES via BVARC <bvarc at bvarc.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris, it depends on your location. We have discovered at least with UHF
>> stations that amplifies antennas often times cause a lot more problems than
>> they solve, unless you are 30+ miles out from the transmitter. If you are
>> here in the SW area, try non-amplified first. KHOU is on KIAH’s RF-34
>> signal.
>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 21:23 Chris Luppens via BVARC <bvarc at bvarc.org>
>> wrote:
>> I have NextGen (Samsung) TV but am on Xfinity so understand the cable
>> systems can’t manage things yet so have to go over the air. Since I have
>> 200-ft high shot to most of the antennas I believe a small amplified
>> antenna (they are very cheap) will work. Are the channels the same? Channel
>> 11 is 11-1 etc ?
>>
>> Typos Compliments of iPhoneChris Luppens
>>
>> On Dec 9, 2021, at 9:10 PM, Christopher Boone via BVARC <bvarc at bvarc.org>
>> wrote:
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>>
>> Desktop converters are still in preproduction. Not sure when they will
>> be available. There are only 3 TVs that have V3, lowest cost is 900 or
>> so..eventually they will drop...just like DTVs did originally
>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2021, 8:51 PM john Parmalee via BVARC <bvarc at bvarc.org>
>> wrote:
>> Any thoughts as to how to get a tuner? Best by blanks At a search for
>> ATS 3. I see a $1500 flat screen that I don't want. John Parmaleeat
>> a Jparmalee at aol.com281-380-3811 K5VGM WI2XLJIn a message dated 12/9/2021
>> 4:58:28 PM Central Standard Time, bvarc at bvarc.org writes:
>> You'll need an ATSC 3 or NextGen TV to view it or an external tuner box
>> like before, some HDTV may support a USB dongle for decode but no
>> confirmationon that yet. 4k/,UHD support, better and more channels of
>> audio, a 14db increase in OTA reception and rejection of noise ( goodbye to
>> most pixelation!!), more channels in better definition and much more. More
>> info at https://www.watchnextgentv.com/ ChrisWB5ITT
>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2021, 3:58 PM Ambrose E Fawcett III via BVARC <
>> bvarc at bvarc.org> wrote:
>> What is so great about NextGen TV? What differences will I see on my
>> TV? Pump
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: john Parmalee via BVARC <bvarc at bvarc.org>
>> To: nars at mailman.qth.net; bvarc at bvarc.org
>> Cc: john Parmalee <jparmalee at aol.com>
>> Sent: Thu, Dec 9, 2021 12:04 pm
>> Subject: [BVARC] Houston, We Have a NextGen TV Launch
>>
>>
>> Houston, We Have a NextGen TV Launch
>>
>> By George Winslow published 2 days ago
>>
>> The ATSC 3.0 roll-out across 10 stations in the nation’s eighth-largest
>> TV market is the biggest launch of NextGen TV signals to date
>>
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>> (Image credit: Pixabay)
>> HOUSTON, Texas—In what is being billed as the largest NextGen TV launch
>> to date, 10 local stations in Houston, the eighth-largest TV market in the
>> United States, have launched ATSC 3.0 broadcasts.
>>
>> The launches involved the following TV station groups and stations:
>>
>> - Fox Television Stations’ KTXH (My Network, channel 20) and
>> owned-and-operated KRIV (FOX, channel 26).
>> - Nexstar Media Group, Inc.’s KIAH (CW, channel 29).
>> - Univision’s KFTH (UniMas, channel 67) and owned-and-operated KXLN
>> (Univision, channel 45).
>> - ABC owned-and-operated KTRK (ABC, channel 13).
>> - Graham Media Group’s KPRC (NBC, channel 2).
>> - Tegna’s KHOU (CBS, channel 11).
>> - NBCUniversal-owned KTMD (Telemundo, channel 47).
>> - University of Houston’s KUHT (PBS, channel 2).
>>
>> The participating stations have worked together to ensure that current
>> programming remains available to all viewers, regardless of whether their
>> television service is provided over-the-air or by a cable or satellite
>> company.
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