[BVARC] A Thank You to John Stratton, ARRL West Gulf Division Director

Keith Dutson kdutson at sbcglobal.net
Mon Apr 5 05:24:49 CDT 2021


 I have three Generac generators.  They all run on propane.  They were installed over a 10 year period.  The third unit was purchased from Lowes with a 10 percent military discount, for a bit over $8K.
I do all my own maintenance including oil and filter changes, and spark plugs.  A complete kit is available from Amazon.  On propane the oil is ready for change every 2-3 years, and looks almost new when drained.  The battery lasts about 5 years.
Before these generators were installed I used small portable gas powered generators with manual connection to main breaker panel.  I need three because our 16 acres has three power meters, to the house, radio shack and horse barn.  The barn also has the water well.
I do not consider cost recovery as an important issue, although I am able to write off the cost for the barn because it is run under a LLC.  In our area, having a happy family during storms is plenty of justification.
73, Keith NM5G
    On Sunday, April 4, 2021, 11:35:44 PM CDT, Mark Brantana via BVARC <bvarc at bvarc.org> wrote:  
 
 I just have to wonder, how Generac can justify the cost of their generator. That is what does not add up for me.4kW = $250 at Home Depot17kW=$10,000 from Generac
Looking at the chart below; from Hiller, if you want A/C included, it is going to take that much power. 
If this is not critical, there another option could be considered:
A whole-house unit would be nice to have, but a Generac would cost about $120+/mo for four years. The small 4kW portable generator I bought would be paid for in about 2 months at that rate. 
If you have gas heat, you can run the fan with the smaller unit. In this option you can buy all the emergency generating power you need for the cost of the 4kW generator I bought at Home Depot for around $250.  Add a SPDT switch to the fan and wiring for around $100 and the total cost is about $350.
It does not have to be Generac or nothing. Even if I had the cash, I don’t know if I could justify the very high $/kW. I would prefer a few more vacations.
I would have been very comfortable if I had just been able to run the heater fan.
MarkN5PRD


On Apr 4, 2021, at 8:11 PM, Bruce via BVARC <bvarc at bvarc.org> wrote:

We had our Generac whole house generator installed in August, 2020. Our house is all electric. Shortly after, someone cut down a tree about a 1/2 mile from us, it fell on a utility pole knocking out power to our entire street for 8 hours. The generator was great during that summer heat. Then came the cold of February and it worked great for 4 days. The neighbors on both sides of me and behind me all have generators. The $10,000 investment will never be recovered however, having power is wonderful. In fact, it cost me about $1.25 an hour in natural gas to run the generator. Could not be more pleased. 

For those getting a generator, if you go after a Generac, be sure to watch their website for warranty specials. I have a 10-year warranty plus the first year onsite service. Paid my dealer for 5 years of onsite above that. Changing the oil is a piece of cake as I had to do it during the cold. Every 25 hours of run time. I bought 6 filters and a bunch of 5W30 synthetic oil to do it during an emergency when the dealer could not come out. Takes about 10 minutes to change it. 

Enjoy your generator. 

73...bruce

On 4/4/2021 7:57 PM, k5hm.ron--- via BVARC wrote:

For those of you who don’t know John, I met him when he was the Division Vice Director.  He is very active in the ARRL and a great advocate for hams in Texas. He has been a frequent presenter at our Ham Fest and club meetings.   He knows his way around Texas politicians too.   I’ve never had much use for lawyers but John is the exception. Perhaps because like me, he is also an engineer.    Dear John,  I wanted to thank you for your persistence in guiding the Texas legislature to pass recent legislation regarding HOA’s preventing the installation of standby generators.    During the recent  Texas freeze my XYL and I were without power for 4 days We existed by camping out in our family room with the cats and the gas fireplace and lots of flashlight batteries.  Fortunately, we have a gas stovetop, so we were able to prepare food.  When it was over, I vowed, we would not have to live without heating and AC winter or summer.  We signed with a local dealer and hopefully we will have the standby system installed before the 2021 hurricane season begins.   While we were going through the paper work with the company rep, he showed us a suggested letter we could send to our HOA that stated“I  understand it is my responsibility to obtain all HOA approvals for my whole house generator system. I acknowledge Quality Generators cannot act on my behalf in dealings with my HOA.”  It was then I remembered John talking about his legislation regarding this problem.  So I Googled it.  There it was in black and white. Texas Property Code Section 202.019. I  It reads: Except as provided by this section, a property owners' association may not adopt or enforce a dedicatory instrument provision that prohibits, restricts, or has the effect of prohibiting or restricting an owner from owning, operating, installing, or maintaining a permanently installed standby electric generator.  Thanks again John.  73,Ron, K5HMk5hm.ron at gmail.comwww.qrz.com/db/k5hm<image001.jpg><image002.jpg><image003.jpg>        Excelsior!  
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