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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">My generac starts in about 10 seconds
of power outage. Some times, the TV and surround sound do not even
go out. Then it stays on until power has been restored for at
least 30 seconds. It will run for about 3-5 minutes after that to
cool down and then shut off. <br>
73...bruce<br>
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On 5/3/2021 8:17 PM, Blaine Taylor via BVARC wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The “Sweet Spot” on backup
generators is at
9000 to 13000 watt, where you get the most bang for the buck.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The Generac system is about convenience.
It will auto start after about 10 minutes (setup) of power
outage. Most modern homes in the south require several tens
of thousands of watts generator to be truly whole house, and
they are very expensive.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I have a unit with a 10KW generator which
runs MOST of the house with a manual transfer switch. I go to
the generator shed, plug in the generator to the external
circuit, use the electric start to run the generator for 2-5
minutes to get it warm, then switch the manual switch in the
house and well house. It continues to run until I reverse
the
process.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">It cost about $1200 including the 50 amp
transfer switch. I have a portable 8000 btu air conditioner,
which has a 6inch hose to run out the window, which will
de-humidify and cool the living and sleeping areas downstairs.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Most modern generators of this size will
run dual fuel, including gasoline with an option of Natural or
Propane Gas.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">When we moved here 32 years ago, the fort
bend county area had lots of power outages. We only have 3 or
4 a year now.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The Big systems do run 20-40 thousand
dollars, which is rather a lot for the convenience during
those few outages.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">By the way most electrical contractors can
put together a hybrid system with a Generac controller for
convenience, and a medium sized dual fuel 10KW generator with
the electronics for automatic start/stop and switching to
generator/mains.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">73’s <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">KD5EXG<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Blaine Taylor<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> BVARC
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bvarc-bounces@bvarc.org"><bvarc-bounces@bvarc.org></a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Shannon
Tassin via BVARC<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 3, 2021 6:38 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org"><bvarc@bvarc.org></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Shannon Tassin <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:stassin@hotmail.com"><stassin@hotmail.com></a>;
Mike Lambert <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mikradhou@hotmail.com"><mikradhou@hotmail.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [BVARC] backup power plan<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I recently made many calls and talked to
many vendors to determine the best backup power plan. I was
hoping that solar plus battery would not only provide power
during an outage but would also always provide power.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My conclusion was that whole home backup
generator is still the only cost reasonable option. That
will cost you $10-15k (but they are in short supply and you
likely won’t get until November) whereas solar plus battery
is more like $50k. I was even told by one solar company that
when the power is out, the solar panels get shut down so as
not to push electricity back to the grid so they don’t
generate at all when the grid is down. So for a long outage
all you have is the battery and no ongoing solar generation.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On May 3,
2021, at 6:12 PM, D. Howard Bingham via BVARC <<a
href="mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org" moz-do-not-send="true">bvarc@bvarc.org</a>>
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<p><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Easy,
get a Generac WHOLE HOUSE Generator, but be careful, as
since the FREEZE & power outages several months ago,
PRICES ARE WAY UP & supplies may be SHORT with a
LONG WAIT for installation.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">My
Nephew had the Generac system installed in my Sister's
home in Deer Park 3 years ago, I need power for CPAP
breathing machine at night, sister has tripped in the
dark when power has gone out at night. So here it's a
MEDICAL ISSUE.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Alternative
would be SOLAR CELLS (GENERAC HAS THESE with Battery
Power packs that typically are installed in a garage for
use when power fails at night, or during storms.).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Those
who've followed the PBS "This Old House" has seen
similar systems installed in major house remodeling over
the years.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">73</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">D.
Howard Bingham</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">KE5APJ</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 5/3/2021 2:42 PM, Mike Lambert via
BVARC wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hurricane season starts in a month. <br>
<br>
I am interested in talking to anyone who has a backup
power plan (remember Ike?) to compare notes, ideas,
techniques, etc. <br>
<br>
We could comm via email outside of the BVARC listserve.
<br>
<br>
Mike <br>
KI5PIY <br>
<a href="mailto:mikradhou@hotmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">mikradhou@hotmail.com</a> <br>
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